I'm So Happy Hosting or Whatever This Job Is

I was actually an intern when I was like 20 at Ben, but I like to tell people I work there for longer so they come older. We were talking before the recording about this kind of dark period where companies that when you look at the orchid, you read the Wikipedia page or something. Then miss the telling these milestones from like a retrospect. But I'm curious about kind of the dark period where things were working. Like what was happening now? Was there a period of desperation and I didn't know what the hell I was doing? And then just it completely changes also being in the hype cycle. Fucking sucks.