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A conversation between Gregory Chaitin and Stephen Wolfram (July 5, 2021)

The Stephen Wolfram Podcast

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Is There a Thing That Exists?

I don't think god is a programmer. I think that the universe is all possible programmes. That's how you get the theomega number, the in probability. How does your view of physics there relate to your platonic view of mathematics? Men, how would you describe if you say, mathematics just is, there is a thing that is mathematics? What is there a thing? Well, does any thing exist? The question is, does anything exist? Is anything real? And ah, ah, there's the reality we see or experience, right? And m that's a very complicated, messy thing. So one looks for one looks for some substructure, some hidden, inner

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