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Is There a Real Trade-Off Between Security and Liberty?
Juriverl: If we made a mistake after 9 11, it was in not telling more stuff to more members of congress earlier. He says the law makes it very clear he can narrow the number of members of congress that he tells things to. Juriverl asks if recent actions by russia and putten are being taken seriously? We're serious peopleok? People still in government understand the issues.