He was hoping for a war that would be over in forty eight hours. And even if he's able to take a kiv ino, the capital, i don't think that he's ever going to control ukraine. He doesn't remotely have the army or the number of people that would be required to subdue a country of more than forty million people. So in that sense, he's losta the possibility of a much better outcome is still out there.
Freddie Sayers meets Francis Fukuyama.
Francis Fukuyama is a political scientist and public intellectual, most famous for his 1992 book The End of History and the Last Man which has helped to define how we understand contemporary history. His new book is called Liberalism and its Discontents.
Freddie Sayers spoke to Dr. Fukuyama about the war in Ukraine, current trends in Western democracy, and how liberalism can better understand aspects of the human condition it has historically neglected.
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