I think a lot of people just underestimate The potential of what the human body can achieve naturally because there are some genetic freaks out there There's loads. But it wasn't yeah, they'd come to my house It's not it would take you know 20 minutes come to my home do the stuff go like it wasn't that bad after we were up and running. I think there's obviously aA lot of people in the fitness industry who are taking stuff but then there's also a few people with amazing physiques that aren't. So you get someone that's got mediocre to poor genetics The trains really hard or you know fairly hard and look shit and they're like, oh, it

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