Casey Spinks joins Mayor James Decker to discuss Texas's complex political and cultural landscape, focusing on the tensions between urban, suburban, and rural areas.

The discussion highlights the historical shifts in Texas politics, the influence of suburbanites, the rise of weekend ranches, and the ecological changes resulting from privatization and the introduction of exotic species. The speakers also address the implications of these trends for public access to land and the historical context of Western development. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the literary contributions of John Graves, a Texas author known for his profound reflections on rural life and nature. They discuss his notable works, particularly 'Goodbye to a River,' and how his writing resonates with contemporary issues in Texas. The dialogue explores themes of ecological awareness, the legacy of rural life, and the ongoing relevance of Graves' insights in today's rapidly changing environment. The speakers also reflect on the hope and despair present in modern Texas, emphasizing the importance of community and individual efforts in preserving the land and culture.