There's a concept called toxic flow when it comes to sophisticated traders, which is basically flow that you're likely to lose. And so because there was less toxic flow in FTX because it was easy to make money, I think the volume grew so quickly. So people listening might be confused because they might say, well, okay, let's suppose your speculations are true. But if this is true, then what actually happened is maybe less than 10 users accounted for 80% or over 90% of their volume. These are sophisticated, algo traders, low latency algo traders that went in and ripped off Alameda all day long.

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