The foreign desk podcast hears andrew with more, a book bearing the title disorder probably has a case to make at any point in human history. The author of disorder, hard times in the 20 first century, helen thompson, is professor of political economy at the university of cambridge. Helen joins us to discuss why the world seems to be on the brink of global conflict once again,. And how we got here to day's episode focuses on an thompson's new book, disorder.

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