I think you need a meaning to sustain you in life, because life is difficult. And so the meaning has to be proportional to the difficulty. I whenever i talked to audiences about that and pointed out that it's through the adoption of responsibility that you're most likely to encounter those meanings. Almost everything that's deeply meaningful requires the willingness to adopt responsibility. That's than happiness. Happiness is a consequence, i would say, a fortunate consequence, of the pursuit of something deeply meaningful.

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