Sally Kohn: You just wrote an incredible book, and I want to talk about it. And one of the things that you said early on in this interview that I want to get right back to is old school networking versus new school networking. What's working now? Can you talk to me about the differences of those two? Yeah. So my whole approach is how to win the right friends and influence the right people. Only align yourself with people that are aligned with you. The first chapter is be a pain detective. Anyone listening to this is they're hoping they're going to hear something that will maybe be useful to them, right? Some sort of woo.

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