Willem Dafoe: A Relationship to Backstory

Maggie, you mentioned that this feeling of you can feel when the actor wants to be there. I immediately flashed back to, we did a podcast about the Star Wars prequels and in Revenge of the Sith, I feel like you can feel that Natalie Portman really does not want to be there... Yeah, oh, poor Natalie. You should have been through so much. Trisha: Kind of like you're saying there then, Trisha, too, it's almost like the same way atmosphere is this kind of accumulation of details. And Willem Dafoe at the very beginning, I was getting a little bit of like, I'm watching the Life Aquatic here