What does it take to implement governance and compliance, because they are process controls much more than individual technologies. Today we discuss that a lot of the talks seem to be about governance and compliance, and we have a fascinating discussion about governance compliance and Kubernetes. The idea that Kubernetes is maturing, losing the drama that is a hallmark of its first decade now and moving into a focus on managing how to control and have security, compliance and normality. Yet all of those things have a degree of tension with the vendors and users, which puts single choice compliance and governance in direct conflict with open source competitive ecosystems. This makes for a fascinating conversation where we touch on some really important issues for the industry. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/mAkvsYgMYMp_W8BizkoSxliYgrg?utm_source=copy_url Image: Generated by Dall-E