Makers has like every kind of asset basically on earth in the long run so as the interest rates go down it will kind of drive more probably bullish behavior. With all the infrastructure and in battle tested resume I guess that maker has developed to date too. Sam: There's really a new ground floor that you can get in on with maker. It's no longer the old school conservative boring place that it used to be. So that would be my takeaway message. But again let's do this again in six months or so to get an update on spark and and where maker does that because I'm sure this stuff is going to change really quick but again thanks for coming on.

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