The Bill Gates interview was kind of a turning point. A lot of the arc of the book is you everything you had to do towards securing that Bill Gates interview. And then it seems like right after then you get you just make some calls in Maya Angelou and Jessica Alba, Lady Gaga,. Quincy Jones, Pitbull. But like, how do you get or at the time, you know, how would you get in touch with Maya Angelou? Because I think you skipped over that part in the book a little bit.

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