The idea that i can capture my lifetime, or the last week, even, or even yesterday, with a number is an illusion. And if they want to pursue a life of hedonism and enjoying life to the limits, youno, within the law and not harming anyone, i kind of just want to say, that's your choice. I think we should be encouraging people in a variety of ways, to engage, a, in practices, anda, you know, ways of of being that contribute to the common good. There's a ton of empirical work on this that is really fascinating. Ah, and you know, like, young people do want to understand how they relate
Philosopher Jennifer Frey of the University of South Carolina talks about the state of the university in American education. Frey urges a stronger focus on virtue and human flourishing and a reduced focus on career preparation. Roberts, despite his sympathy with the examined life, challenges the virtue of philosophical enquiry. At the end of the conversation, both guest and host defend philosophy.