David Perry: I was listening to an interview that you did about one of your other books, Killers the Flower Moon. He asked if you had to find a new style suited to that story. You came up with something that was spare and had elements of the Western in it., he says. Perkins: For me, both structurally and tonally, I try to create one that suits the material and let it grow out of the material.
David Grann is a staff writer at The New Yorker and the acclaimed author of "The Lost City of Z" and "Killers of the Flower Moon." In his new book, the #1 New York Times bestseller "The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny, and Murder," he tells the story of an 18th-century British warship that crashed on a godforsaken island off the coast of Patagonia. Stranded and starving, the men descended into murderous anarchy. Years later, when a handful of the survivors returned to England, their heroes' welcome was quickly swamped by questions about what really happened on the island.
Host: Caleb Bissinger
Guest: David Grann