I grew up in Bloomington, Indiana and Indiana I would say is pretty rural but Bloomington just being a college town was definitely more liberal. So it's cool to just see like, you know, middle America and more rural America Especially kind of growing up in college and seeing that and being kind of exposed to that so you're not just in New York City your entire life type of thing. There's a lot of value in having very long term deep roots deep roots and connections and friendships and relationships with people. If you don't have exposure to other people it's hard to Understand their perspective, right? And if you're only in your one swim lane, you know talking about swimming

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