So much of political philosophy starts with hobbs and rousseau. Neither one had any idea what humans were like in a state of nature. And so, of course, we now reject any kind of marxian forces of history that push things along. But on the other hand, isn't there kind of logic? Say, take jerd diamond's argument that enough to go from a small band of a couple doe people,. where resolute conflict resolution can happen on a small scale. If you scale up to thousands or tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, you end up in this kind of hierarchical a astructure rather than a horizontal structure. W you have to have somebody

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