# 574 - Peter Atencio & Cale Boyter (The Machine Director/Producer)
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The Great Fucking Series
I've literally watched one point three series of my entire life and that's because Cassie I can't watch the series. business model changed radically over the last what we'll say three or four yearsYeah so um and I think that look there's a lot of good signs that we're seeing in the last we'll say six months yeah.
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