
Special MSNBC coverage of Donald Trump's second federal indictment
The Rachel Maddow Show
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The DOJ's Restrained Indictment of Mike Pence
We believe that the Justice Department was capable of developing these facts on their own. Maybe they weren't. Maybe it took the congressional investigation to get these people to come forward in a way that wasn't compelled by subpoena or compelled by the legal system. But then DOJ did much more than they were capable of. Remember, all those ignored subpoenas that the House did. Nobody ignored any of these subpoenas. My Pence is in here under both. And you can see in this document, and this was something the congressional investigation, never could have developed because Mike Pence refused to even talk to them. This just doesn't end in the DOJ having to prove that Trump was trying to stage an insurrection
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