Samantha: I think it is somewhat meta that you get to work on this podcast. And part of that helps you evolve and decide what you want to need for your own career. Cindy: For me personally, the way that I see our why show up the most is really, we really are changing not just the way that people think about how they do work but also where they thrive. Samantha: It's magical to be able to even see somebody have a little bit of an epiphany to say, I can now define what autonomy for me looks like.

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