Pots: The first step of owning is to name it own it, right? You're not going back to anywhere. If you keep doing it, you keep harming. So the person who has been hurt doesn't have to do shit in this process,. This is... But we haven't even engaged them. We've made the owning that would be like a mother coming and saying, I know that I did this. Like how do you see it happening in families with the first step?

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