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Episode 543: Jeff Goodell

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Empathy for the People in Texas

I don't feel like it's my job to feel empathy. I am incredibly encouraged by the changes that we've seen in the last decade. The whole rationale of clean energy is more expensive, is completely false. And also culturally, you know, 15 years ago, 20 years ago, when I started writing about climate change,. It would be like, I was writing about the sex life of porcupines or something.

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