"There is no way to bring this up with somebody that is going to make them not understand what you're actually telling them," she says. "It's like a caricature of the arrogance of doctors saying, oh, well, in every interaction, I have to bring up this patient's BMI even if that person is a child." 'I'm bringing it up in a way that's non-stigmatizing,' one doctor tells her. "'Madening' and documents like this talk to kill me,'" another adds.