The Left, You Know, Is for Flight 93 Election

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The left seems to bind to the same premise, perior point, we that this is inevitable, and they have something to fear from it. But there's really good empirical arguments against thinking of america in those kinds of ways as well. Real life is just more complicated han bat. The only reason why donald tramp was competitive in te 20 20 electionThat he made real advances in the share of a vote among basely every non white group,. including moslem Americanans. Woa, majority non white, including a lot of latinos. Even economically, we don't necessarily have things in common with these populists. Don't reram Narendamodi is

Yascha Mounk is a professor at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, a contributing writer at The Atlantic, and the founder of Persuasion. His new book, The Great Experiment: Why Diverse Democracies Fall Apart and How They Can Endure, was published this week.

In this week’s conversation, Ravi Gupta and Yascha Mounk discuss why it is so hard to build diverse democracies, how we can overcome the deeply human instinct to discriminate against those unlike ourselves, and why he remains optimistic about the prospects of the “great experiment.”

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