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773. Mary Laura Philpott

Otherppl with Brad Listi

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How to Get Out of the Way of an Ambulance

"I have to consciously take myself through the exercise of empathy so that i'm not a ball of rage, just burning myself to ash all the time," she says. "Hopefully what it is in overtime is like fostering a healthy mistrust of a, you know, my a certainties and pieties."

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