"i've beeng very, very lucky in the lottery of life. My my parents are both ontrpeners, and so i was raised with a lot of kind of self starting energy," she says. "My dad is someone who's very oriented around, you know, you do well when you follow the rules." She adds that her mum has made be a bit more of a cheeky side - even if no one else thinks they should. 'Sometimes the best way to change it is to break the rules, or to bend the rules'

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