Some teams are very much caught up in the, we need to ship stuff. We just need to ship. And that also it comes back to bite you quite quickly as well. This is really kind of cool concept that's happening in my area, the wider platform division, which is a process called shape up. I think it came from base camp and they started doing something called cooldown sprints, which I think is actually really cool. It's like there's this book called thinking fast and slow. And but really got me thinking about like there's the doing time and then there's the thinking time."