"i think i'm very ashamed of how we've done as a country in terms of combating the plague," he says. "Our fates are tied to our fellow citizens, and so we have a selfish interest in trying to get our fellow citizens to behave better." But even if we didn't have a selfish, selfish interest, we should have an altruistic interest because these people deserve our care - they are our fellow citizens. 'I don't want ay human being to lose her life needlessly'

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