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Kerson corasa, ed niedermier and Bbegit halder join us for the first time on atoni. Kerson: The improvement happened oferr last four or five or six years in atonomy is just mine blowing. Ed Niedermier: I am the author of ludicrous, the unvarnished story of tesslam motors. A a we have here to day with us for thefirst time on the autonic asta. We are joined by Alex roy, director of special operations argo ai who i do not represent on this show.

Bibhrajit Halder has been a part of the autonomous driving technology space since the days of the DARPA Challenges, working on Caterpillar's early automated mining trucks before working at Ford, Apple and elsewhere. Now the founder and CEO of SafeAI, Halder is back in the mining and heavy construction space and he joins the show to share his perspective on the state of autonomous heavy equipment and its similarities and differences with the more widely-followed robotaxi space.