Weco: We can avoid in one of two ways. Thereis overt avoidance, which is not showing up and staying on the couch with the cat. Or there's covert avoidance, so there's showing up but then doing all these little behaviors that artificially tamp down one's anxiety or keep one safe. Weco: When it crosses that threshold into distress and imbarriment, is when it becomes a disorder. But yet, like so many of us do, do these little behaviors to an extent.

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