I think lots of people who want to become full time creators. They have that goal of thecoming foll time creator. Were uwed almost by accident. You were doing on the side, and you had or sass business as well, but you didn't quit your job. I want to become media celebrity and have the hundreds of thousands follows you do. And i think sometimes actually works better in a way, where if you're trying too hard to desperately ou grow, you sometimes need that other thing to give you that stability, and then the creative side is more enjoyable. Whereas when people to make money from the crati side straightway, i think tha put so much pressure into you that en it can stifle your crativity. I

agree, you can see it rites o like when you, when you read people's content or watch people's content on social media. At least i feel like i can see it or feel it, feel that sort of a desperation, i guess, for lack of a better term, which is unfortunate, right? I wish that it was. I wish that more people were making money on line. And i think it starteg to move that direction. Verses, like i was just interested in creating noise, like i just wanted to create attention. In that attention, i figured i would find some signal inside of that noise that was things i could tune into. But i also realized, like, if i looked around, the folks that were growing the most were just everywhere, like you couldn't ignore them. And so my goal was to just, like, plaster the internet. I wanted you to log on to twitter or linke orlistn o podcass and like to have me be there as frequently as possible. But i wasn't selling anything, like, i don't, i don't really like it. You won't really see me come on, like, plug stuff real hard, right? Like, that's just not what i do. And i think that people enjoy that, or they feel more trustworthy, or something works well with that, where em, you know, folks nd up buying anyways. And so we're just sort of worked out in a lucky fashion, i guess.