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so i think alte child enjoy, yet, hopefully, a period of stability to kin a build on really strong foundations. There are thousands of scientists like allian dan, and thousands of versions of story every year as they take their first steps into independent science. Every successful lab head has been a new p i. But not every new p i has allowed four reporters to follow them for three years. We'd like to say thank you to alli and dan for sharing their journey so far with us and now with you. And of course, allian dan's journey has only just begun. They've built strong foundations. Now we leave them to build their house. This episode of starting up in science was written by me, karry smith, benjamin thompson and i produced the series with editing help from noah baker hyde leadford, richard van norden. Benjamin thompson and i reported the story for the podcast and for the text version that you can find on our web site. Read that at nature dot com. Slash news,

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