Legendary BBC presenter and China editor Carrie Gracie, live in London
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The Black Lives Matter Debate
Kaija: The equal pay fight was a great learning experience for me and i told the chinese farmers because i had to go back straight off the parliamentary hearing in january 2018. Kaija used to have long conversations with everybody in the chinese foreign ministry about everything under the sun so we were used to having long heart to hearts about everything including all the things we disagreed about vehemently. She says she learned from her experiences at the bbc that it's like oh okay well which way is journalistic north? "I think by means of having a massive top volume argument with my employer for the sake not on my own with a whole group of other women"
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