How to Get People to Say These Things on Camera

I felt that it was really important to confront them with the more difficult questions, to give them the opportunity to speak for themselves about these very concerning ethical issues. And there was a moment in the interview when his eyes like really changed. And, and suddenly he just began to offer and to divulge all this stuff that was just on, on one hand, very, very insightful of where he's coming from. And on the other hand, very disturbing.

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