Wallet security was in the spotlight after the announcement of Ledger Recover, but the crypto community doesn’t need to “freak out,” according to Itai Turbahn, co-founder and CEO of Dynamic Labs, and Ouriel Ohayon, CEO of ZenGo. The two CEOs join the show to talk about the challenges of bringing self-custody to the masses. For many, “not your keys, not your coins” is actually “your keys, your problem.”

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Show highlights:

• the problems that may arise when managing your own keys
• the misconceptions that people have about hardware wallets
• why Ouriel says that Ledger is going in the right direction but made a major mistake
• how multi-party computation can be a solution to the problem of securing your own keys
• what are other ways to solve it, such as Shamir’s secret sharing (SSS) and multisigs
• the tradeoffs between security and user experience
• how Dynamic Wallet works by linking multiple wallets to a single account
• whether “passwordless authentication” is the future of security
• how can users protect themselves from “bad transactions” and what are companies doing to help
• whether open source contributes to more security in the wallet landscape
• how account abstraction will change the user experience
• whether security is the key to the future of crypto

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Guests:

• Itai Turbahn, cofounder and CEO of Dynamic Labs
• Ouriel Ohayon, CEO of ZenGo
• Previous appearance on Unchained: ZenGo: A Self-Custodial Wallet Minus the Risk of Losing Your Keys

Previous coverage of Unchained on wallets:

• The Ugly Tradeoffs of Ledger’s New Recovery Service

Links

• What is ZenGo Recovery Kit?
• Cointelegraph:
• Multiparty computation could offer increased protection for crypto wallets
• I run a Ledger competitor — But I support it in blow-up over keys
• Unchained: ‘Backdoor’ for Seed Phrases? Ledger’s New Recovery Feature Spooks Users
• Tweet from Ouriel that explains the differences between ZenGo and Ledger
• Solving the crypto adoption problem: making crypto *actually* usable
• Multi-Party Computation (MPC) Technology Can Ensure Effective Fraud Detection | Nasdaq
• Web3 Auth 101: What is wallet-based authentication?

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