Ben: I think what is interesting to me, like you were just referring to your 20s, but I think it's just as applicable to other points in life too. Ben: The way you're going to be a good coach is by not being a good coach right now. But you know, I was in love with coaching pretty quickly and loved the work we did together. And that really jumped started the part of my life that I think I'm in right now.

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