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Your Solar Panels Are Made in Muslim Concentration Camps | Michael Shellenberger EP 169

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The Problem With Renewables, Is It a Problem With Energy?

Solar and wind require 300% more copper, 700% more rare earths than natural gas per unit of energy. You're going to need a lot more of those materials and metals if you're going to move to renewables. The way to think about nature protection is that you want to use less of it. And so what you want is a reduced material intensity or what we call you want dematerialization.

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