Intro

"You must not work hard for something that somebody else can make an infinite amount of for free at no cost and no contribution. If you are working hard for something, do it for something that is hard to make. That is the point of money.

That is the point of society. It is an antithetical to cooperation and basic common sense to work for something. It just means you're working for them.

If they can print trillions of it for free, you're just working for them. Stop working for them and use a money that has the same rules for everybody. And trust me on a long enough timeline that will pay off like you could not believe."

~ Guy Swann

I sat down with Walker and Will Reeves (CEO of Fold) for a real-world, no-fluff conversation about what it actually means to live on a Bitcoin standard. We broke it down: why saving in fiat feels like running uphill, how Fold makes it dead simple to start stacking, and what it looks like to bring your family into Bitcoin without turning your life upside down. We talked about the slow grind of inflation, the hidden cost of working for a money they can print endlessly, and why saving in Bitcoin is not just sane—it’s essential. Will shares some powerful insights on building tools that meet people where they are, and I offer my own experience using Fold to stack quietly, consistently, and meaningfully.

Big thanks to Walker and Will for an awesome conversation.

Link to original episode on THE Bitcoin Podcast: How to Stack More Bitcoin | Will Reeves & Guy Swann (Saving in Bitcoin Ep. 4) (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOsuZtoXiU8)

Bitcoin Audible & Guy Swann Links

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• Guy on Instagram (Link: https://www.instagram.com/theguyswann)
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• Guy on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@theguyswann)
• ⁠Bitcoin Audible on X⁠ (Link: https://twitter.com/BitcoinAudible)
• The Guy Swann Network Broadcast Room on Keet (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3na6v839)
  
  

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