The Conflict Between the Elders and Me

2min Snip

00:00

Play full episode

Summary

Transcript

Episode notes

"I think I would have found a way, like in the absence of Twitter," he says. "You know, the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked ... who can know it?" He adds: "If they had just been nice to me, well, it would have been a little bit of cognitive dissonance."

In this episode we sit down with Megan Phelps-Roper, the author of Unfollow, a memoir of her time in Westboro Baptist Church, and an exploration what it took to convince her to leave. I interviewed Megan for my upcoming book, How Minds Change, and in this interview you will learn all about assimilation and accommodation, cult deprogrammers, and the steps Megan says one must take if they want to change someone's mind.

- Vote for You Are Not So Smart at The Webby Awards! Link here: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2021/podcasts/general-series/science-education

- Show notes at www.youarenotsosmart.com

Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmart