Soul making teachings and asual practice are based on an understanding of emptiness that goes beyond just the deconstruction. Ah, it's not that every one needs to have a very deep experience of emptiness to be able to do soul making practice but some people do. Some people take it on faith, and some people legitimize it in other ways also. And i i'd like to kind of double click on the emptiness piece, because another sort of inquiry that i heard people represent was something like, you know, i still don't really understand what the point of imaginabl work is. What's all this ima astuff for right here?