patrick radden keef author of the snakehead which is out now in the uk. The documentary about the cyclids has just been nominated for a an Oscar it's obviously a subject you've covered a lot. Do you think that the story of the cyclids is finally reaching a wider audience or how do you feel about how that story continues to develop and people covering it different ways? i'm really delighted to think that more audiences all over the place will be able to see and admire nand's work wonderful well patrick thank you so much  for joining us this episode of intelligent squared.

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