I think of this as information architecture at scale, which is the next theme that emerged in the conversations that we had on the podcast over the year. There are a few episodes that i do want to call out here and bring to your attention. I see this as a way of formalizing conceptual models so they can be shared and discussed with other team members. And now pod casts and utuvirios that aim to serve as a tool to help designers deal with architectural conundrums. So if you are into information architecture and you haven't done so already, i encourage you to check out the conversation with dan brown.