If you love your work but wish you never had to work, today’s episode is for you!

This week I’m incredibly excited to be joined by anticapitalist teacher, writer, vocational guide, and naturalist: Megan Leatherman of A Wild New Work.

In this conversation, we begin by defining capitalism and anti-capitalism alongside Silvia Federici’s book Caliban and the Witch. Then we talk about why our labor is sacred, how to navigate the despair that comes with living under late-stage capitalism, and why slowing down is an important deconstruction of the status quo.

Here’s a preview of the rich wisdom Megan shares:

✨ No other organism works for someone else to get the money or currency they need to then go buy the food or shelter that they need. It’s really absurd. And it’s become more than an economic system. Now it’s a culture and a set of beliefs.

✨ Working in an anti-capitalist way, to me, means living in accordance to the rhythms of my body and the seasons, recognizing that there are times in the cycle of the year when things are really busy and a lot of growth is happening and that gets mirrored in my work, but then there are also times that require a quieter, slower approach. And those all build off one another for a healthy, sustainable life.

✨ You know what you need. You are a human animal in a body who has rhythms and cycles, and you can trust those. They’re not usually convenient to capitalism, because they’re not as productive as a machine. But you can trust them.

And if you love our conversation, be sure to check out Megan's next class, Composting Capitalism!

👋 Thinking of leaving social media? You don't have to go it alone! Download our free Leaving Social Media Toolkit today

🌈 Want support building a successful, sustainable business without relying on social media? Join The Interweb — our affordable, annual membership for creatives, artists & business owners, who want to share their work & make money without social media.

🏦 Ready for a money reset in 2026? Join financial therapist & art therapist Rachel Duncan in The Money Reset: a 90-day group program for your whole money life. Head to moneyhealingclub.com/reset and use the code OFFTHEGRID for 15% off.

Liderando Transformações Disruptivas - com Heloisa Glad | #EP166

Lugar de Potência por Ricardo Basaglia

Como conduz transições hoje

The AI-powered Podcast Player