“When the thesis changes, you have to change with it,” says portfolio manager Julian Abdey. From earning the nickname Dr. Doom as a bank analyst in the leadup to the global financial crisis to scenario planning throughout the pandemic, Julian has honed the skill of doing his own research to gain an edge and stay ahead of change by embracing it. He sits down with Mike Gitlin to discuss how he gains conviction, where he sees potential “oaks” among small-cap “acorns,” and how his brief foray into life as an academic economist influences his approach to risk management. Tune in to hear the evolution of an independent thinker. #CapGroupGlobal

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