If you're always trying to win every argument, you're losing something even more valuable. That’s the core of what Jefferson Fisher and I get into on this thought provoking episode. I sought Jefferson out because he doesn’t teach communication like anybody else. He’s not just sharing fluffy ideas—he’s equipping you with real, specific language that will change how you lead, how you listen, and how you handle conflict.

We talk about what happens when you're in a conversation with someone who constantly needs control, someone who dominates, picks on you, or flat out disrespects your boundaries. Jefferson explains how to take the remote control out of their hands and hand them the manual for how to engage with you instead. That’s when you start reclaiming your peace and your power.

We unpack how silence is the ultimate signal of confidence. Not yelling. Not overpowering. Silence. The best communicators and the best leaders don’t rush—because confidence isn’t loud, it’s steady. If you’ve ever struggled with pacing your words, managing emotions in heated moments, or just knowing when and how to end a conversation, this is your masterclass.

And if you've been allowing certain communication patterns in your life for years—letting people talk to you in ways you know you shouldn’t tolerate—Jefferson gives you the language to change that dynamic today. Not tomorrow. Not after another fight. Right now.

Key Takeaways:

• Why trying to “win” every argument costs you connection, influence, and respect

• How to reset boundaries—even after years of tolerating unhealthy communication

• What to say when someone gets passive-aggressive, disrespectful, or flat-out rude

• The secret to controlling the pace of a conversation—especially when emotions run high

• How silence, tone, and timing can make you a more effective communicator and leader

This is one of those episodes you’ll want to replay with a notepad. Jefferson’s wisdom will help you be more respected at work, more present in your relationships, and more in control of how you show up in every conversation. Max out.

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