This week, my friend Ian Simkins is back for part two of a conversation we started in the spring. And let me tell you right now: You aren't ready for what's about to go down in this conversation. Ian is such a wise, intentional, deliberate, thoughtful person, and as you'll hear today, we took out the shovels and dug deep. Here's where we're headed with Ian today: why grieving prevents bitterness, the costly invitation to intimacy, and the distorted rubric for readiness in life. In other words, our ability to bring lasting value to the world has little to do with gifting, talent, networking, or charisma. And to that, we're going to explore why public fruit is the result of private formation.

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