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80% of white evangelicals voted for Trump in the 2024 GOP primaries—despite everything. Why? And what does it reveal about the state of the Christian conscience?

In this raw and pastoral conversation, Will and Josh speak with Pat Kahnke—author of A Christian Case Against Donald Trump—about the moral cost of evangelical allegiance to Trump. A former pastor and lifelong Republican, Kahnke shares his journey from voting a straight GOP ticket to being “deported” from the party for refusing to support Trump. Together, they explore how fear, political power, and theological drift have distorted the witness of the Church.

The episode dives into key moral foundations: care vs. harm, truth vs. deception, and justice vs. oppression. With rare empathy and candor, Pat explains why he believes the Church needs a “40-year wilderness” before it can heal.

Listen in for a conversation that challenges, convicts, and—most importantly—calls us to a better way.

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👤 Guest Bio
Pat Kahnke is a former pastor and author of MAGA Seduction and A Christian Case Against Donald Trump. Through his YouTube channel and Substack, “Culture, Faith, and Politics,” he critiques the misuse of Christianity for political gain and calls for a gospel-centered public witness.

🔗 Resource Links
A Christian Case Against Donald Trump by Pat Kahnke (Amazon)
https://a.co/d/fx7gNj2
MAGA Seduction by Pat Kahnke (Amazon)
https://bookshop.org/a/112456/9798684280344
Culture, Faith, and Politics on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/ @culturefaithandpolitics
Culture, Faith, and Politics on Substack
https://culturefaithandpolitics.substack.com

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