Wanna know what the hell is going on at WotC? Let’s ask people who used to work there.

It is difficult to describe what a superstar gathering this is on the show. These are not the first names that you think of when you hear D&D, but they are just as significant if not more so than the names we all know.

First Liz Schuh, whose final title at Wizards was Head of Publishing and Licensing for Dungeons & Dragons, has had a hand in the production of every edition of Dungeons & Dragons since 3rd. She was one of the guiding hands involved in the success of 5th edition. Personally, I think the coolest thing she was involved in was her work on the lawsuit which brought the movie rights to D&D back to Wizards/Hasbro, but her career is so long with so many highlights that it is difficult to pick out just one. Her career of more than 28 years ended in December, 2023 in the great culling.

Next, we have Chris Lindsay. Chris was a product manager for Wizards, but his career at the company also spanned over 20 years. Chris was one of the guiding voices of the DM’s Guild, and while I have no idea how much money the DM’s Guild has brought in for Wizards, it must be at least in the tens of millions of dollars. He was also let go in the great culling of December 2023.

These two were on the team responsible for taking the words of the writers and the art of the artists and turning them into a physical book. What do they have to say about where Wizards was and where it’s going?

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